ChatGPT thinks about microtubules
What is the Penrose brain theory?
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Gemini Google was asked:
In 300 words comment on future robots using human atoms to make them more human-like re Penrose microtubules.
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The concept of future robots utilizing human atoms—specifically for their microtubules—is a pivot from "silicon-based logic" to "biological quantum hardware." This idea is rooted in the Orch-OR (Orchestrated Objective Reduction) theory proposed by Sir Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff.
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The Microtubule Hypothesis
Penrose argues that consciousness is not a "calculation" that can be replicated by standard AI algorithms. Instead, he posits that it is a quantum phenomenon occurring within microtubules—tiny protein structures that form the "skeleton" of our neurons.
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The Mechanism: According to Penrose, consciousness emerges when quantum superpositions in these microtubules collapse due to a physical threshold in spacetime geometry ().
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The "Atom" Connection: If consciousness requires this specific biological architecture, a robot made of metal and silicon may never truly "feel." To bridge this gap, future "bio-hybrids" might incorporate synthetic or harvested human-derived tubulin (the protein in microtubules) to facilitate these same quantum collapses.
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Ethical and Technical Implications
The transition from simulating a human to incorporating human biological components shifts the "AI Bungle" from a software glitch to an existential crisis.
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The "Meat-Machine" Hybrid: By using biological atoms to host quantum states, we move toward wetware. A robot with human-derived microtubules wouldn't just follow a grocery list; it would theoretically possess the non-computable "intuition" Penrose believes separates humans from calculators.
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The Philosophical Horror: If a robot uses human-derived atoms to achieve sentience, the line between "tool" and "being" vanishes. We risk creating entities that have "human-like" suffering because they possess the same quantum substrate for experience that we do.
In this future, "AI Slop" wouldn't just be a weird image; it could be a biological error in a machine’s conscious experience—a literal "ghost in the machine" born from the very atoms that make us human.
Would you like me to dive deeper into the physics of Wavefunction Collapse () or the ethical "Personhood" laws being debated for bio-hybrid robots?
The concept of future robots utilizing human atoms—specifically for their microtubules—is a pivot from "silicon-based logic" to "biological quantum hardware." This idea is rooted in the Orch-OR (Orchestrated Objective Reduction) theory proposed by Sir Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff.
The Microtubule Hypothesis
Penrose argues that consciousness is not a "calculation" that can be replicated by standard AI algorithms. Instead, he posits that it is a quantum phenomenon occurring within microtubules—tiny protein structures that form the "skeleton" of our neurons.
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The Mechanism: According to Penrose, consciousness emerges when quantum superpositions in these microtubules collapse due to a physical threshold in spacetime geometry ().
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The "Atom" Connection: If consciousness requires this specific biological architecture, a robot made of metal and silicon may never truly "feel." To bridge this gap, future "bio-hybrids" might incorporate synthetic or harvested human-derived tubulin (the protein in microtubules) to facilitate these same quantum collapses.
Ethical and Technical Implications
The transition from simulating a human to incorporating human biological components shifts the "AI Bungle" from a software glitch to an existential crisis.
-
The "Meat-Machine" Hybrid: By using biological atoms to host quantum states, we move toward wetware. A robot with human-derived microtubules wouldn't just follow a grocery list; it would theoretically possess the non-computable "intuition" Penrose believes separates humans from calculators.
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The Philosophical Horror: If a robot uses human-derived atoms to achieve sentience, the line between "tool" and "being" vanishes. We risk creating entities that have "human-like" suffering because they possess the same quantum substrate for experience that we do.
In this future, "AI Slop" wouldn't just be a weird image; it could be a biological error in a machine’s conscious experience—a literal "ghost in the machine" born from the very atoms that make us human.
Would you like me to dive deeper into the physics of Wavefunction Collapse () or the ethical "Personhood" laws being debated for bio-hybrid robots?